RUSH LIMBAUGH PROGRAM WWDB - 11/1/96 12:00 PM Well in several key, strategic locations, ladies and gentlemen, the presidential race is tightening. For example, in Georgia, it's now a dead heat and the gender gap - the arousal gap doesn't exist. We have details of this and other exciting stories including a phenomenon last night - Halloween - that may have also happened to you as it happened to Mr. Snerdley. Announcer - This is a special edition of Rush Limbaugh Program - America, the way it ought to be. And now from our studios in New York City, here is Rush Limbaugh. Live from New York, it's open line Friday. Rush L. - Hey, hey, hey, that is exactly right my friends. That means that you are the ones that choose the subjects we discuss today or at least have a bigger role in than usual. Open Line Friday, here is the telephone number - 800-282-2882. Do you see what - hey you military guys and I know that we have over a million uniformed personnel around the world, tuning in to this hour of the program and the Armed Forces radio network. Cigarette prices are going up 4 bucks a carton at PXs around the world. It is an attempt to dissuade smoking amongst our armed forces. They already receive pay at 14% below the private sector and now the cost of cigarettes is going way, way up - man if anybody needs a break, if anybody needs some down time, some relaxation, it's the men and women of the U.S. Military. To jack up their carton price by 4 bucks - why I thought this man respected and loved the members of the U.S. military. Anyway just a little side mention there because I see Mr. Snerdley lighting up. Here is the phone number if you want to be on the program - 800-282-2882. Mr. Snerdley came in today, said something very provocative to me, upon arriving for work at the massive EIB broadcast complex. He came in today and said, boy, you have nailed it, Rush, on the seasoned citizens. I said what? I am going to tell you a story that Mr. Snerdley claims happened last night. He apparently opened his doors to the neighborhood's trick or treaters which I think is worthy of plaudit in and of itself - I don't do that, but you willingly opened your front door to the neighborhood's trick or treaters. Mr. Snerdley swears, ladies and gentlemen, that amongst - what would you say the average age of the trick or treaters was last night. The average age was under 12 years old. Admist a group of 12 year old who rang the door bell at Snerdley's fashionable New Jersey residence last night, there was in the group a senior citizen who was not chaperoning but was out collecting free candy. You insist that this is true. Now we've all put him under the microscope here and said come on, this is a chaperon, I mean this is obviously a grandmother taking the kids out. Snerdley insists it wasn't a grandmother because when the doorbell rang, this woman was first in line to shove her bag in his face to get candy ahead of all the under 12 year old. She said she was in competition with the other trick or treaters. So it is apparently the point that Mr. Snerdley is trying to make is that the certain senior citizens are out that have gotten so much in the welfare state bandwagon that they looked at you last night as a provider in the welfare state showed up for free candy. What were you giving away - typical candy. Candy Corns. Do you know how many calories are in each candy corn kernel? Five point three calories - 5.3 calories per candy corn kernel. There are zero grams of fat but there are 5.3 calories per candy corn kernel. And you gave away a bunch of them. Are you the kind of guy that gives away one candy corn kernel to a spoonful? Aw, individual wrap. But that's not the way we do it. We have a big bowl of the things, you just rip your hand in there - here kid - throw them loosely in the bag. Okay. But I don't know if this happened anywhere else across America - Senior citizens joining the youngsters of America trick or treating for freebies last night. But there are those of us who continue to doubt Mr. Snerdley's story, which is why I say that he claims. How does it feel, how does it feel to tell somebody something and then response being - Snerdly claims - how does it feel. It feels like I'm a journalist right, not believing anything you say. Jenny Jones, everybody is talking about Jenny Jones and everybody is stunned - she looked like a total idiot up on the witness stands. She claimed that she doesn't know what goes on in her show. She doesn't have anything to do with putting it together. Folks, I'm sure she is telling the truth. I have television experience and I can tell you that there are probably 15 or 20 producers of that show that line it all up and she robotically goes out and hosts it and maybe she does only a couple of minutes or maybe an hour before show figure out that they are going to do or is informed what they are going to do. Now, one thing though, don't forget this - she could be adding to the dumb act. She could really be laying it on thick. She may strategically want it said of her - she doesn't know anything about this show; she has nothing to do with planning it; she has nothing to do with anything other than doing what others tell her to do because depending on how this trial comes out there could be a civil case with money damages on the other side of this and I'm sure she wants to insulate herself personally from that, because if you note in this trial she is at odds with some of the producers of this show who are claiming she knows a lot more about each show than she is claiming to know. But she is setting herself up for a future trial - if there is one depending upon the outcome of this one. Now folks there is tremendous amount of new information regarding the scandals that are just surrounding the white House. The press is starting to take note that the White House is shielding Mr. Clinton from the reporters who are covering his campaign. If you've notice in the past two weeks the President has not faced the reporters at all. Dole has. Clinton has not talked to the press while all of this has erupted. They are keeping him shielded from the press so that he doesn't have to answer these questions so that he can stay out there on his positive, uplifting bridge to the 21st century scheme or scam of a campaign. But meanwhile the information continues to roll in and it continues to pile up on the side of wrong, when it comes to raising money and who some of the shady characters are and what kind of access to the White House they have had. The Investors Business Daily today has done a tremendous job in spelling all this out. We will go through it in just a second. First however, yesterday I made a flippant off-hand comment about the economic growth figure that the Commerce Dept. put out. They put out that the growth figure in the most recent quarter, the U.S. economy was 2.2 % and I said if they are saying it is 2.2%, can you imagine what it really is - meaning it is a lot lower than that and they've blown it up - they are exaggerating it. A woman called and said how can you say that. How do you know that they've fudged the figures. But everybody knows they fudged the figures and I gave her examples of how the labor department - the Bureau of Labor Statistics routinely adds jobs every reporting period that they have no real factual knowledge were ever created. These are called bias factor jobs. Well I have here my friends today's Investor Business Daily and there is a story here called "Is Clinton Cooking the Books?" And let me just share with you some of the excerpts of this story. During the debates, the President who has been criticized for weak wage growth touted what appears to be a solid 2.7% gain in real median income for American households. Last years gain was impressive because it was the first since 1989. USA Today concluded from the Census Report that families are beginning to reap the benefits of a strong national economy but a closer look at the numbers reveals that the report was misleading. Real median income fell 1% for full time working men. It fell .6% for full time working women, so who gained? Strap yourselves in. The people who gained were jobless people and seasoned citizens. A whopping 57 million people came out ahead in this economy because of a 2.3% rise in government social transfer payments. They don't stop to tell you how the income was derived. They say income is up, the real wages are up, income is up - in fact they don't say real wages. They said that there was a 2.7% gain in real median income for American households - that's what they reported. But if you look at wage earners - 1% drop in median for full time working men, .6% drop for working women - so how do you get 2.7% - the government gave away more money. Government transfer payments went up 2.3%. Bill Clinton wants to say the government is smaller now than it ever was since Civil War, JFK or whatever his bench mark is. The Government is growing. This is precisely what people who are opposed to government expansion are talking about. Here is another example and this is the one I addressed specifically yesterday on this show with the caller. Clinton boasts creating 10-1/2 million new jobs beating his, beating his 8 million job goal. Little reported though is the fact that the Bureau of Labor Statistics used the fudge factor to come up with than 5 million of the jobs, roughly half. Each month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics adds to its payroll employment sample what's known as a jobs bias adjustment - the bias factor jobs I told you about yesterday - to pick up any jobs that the survey misses. For example a monthly average, get this, a monthly average of 140,000 hypothetical jobs, was added to the sample from July to September. They just made them up. They just grabbed 140,000 jobs out of thin air and added them to the total because they figured they had been created. They don't know but they think so. Paul Getz or Pat Getz, head of the BLS's bench marking unit explains that the payroll sample under estimates, because if you look back in time you'd know it's true. But there's more, in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics announced a major bench mark revision. Now get this, in June my friends, the Bureau of Labor Statistics - Clinton Administration - added 542,000 more jobs than previously counted in the 12 months ended March 1995. What that means is that they just made up over half a million jobs, they just created them out of fresh hair. They just assumed that the economy had created them. And that figure is what enabled Clinton to say he had created 10 million - that half a million is what put him over the 10 million mark right around the convention so they could run around and say that he had created 10 million jobs. The fact of the matter is that half of these 10-1/2 million jobs that Clinton's running around saying have been created are jobs which have been made up by the Bureau of Labor Statistics over the four years if the Clinton administration, that nobody can actually count, that nobody can actually tangibly put their hands on. They just assume these jobs were created. This stuff happens all the time. But the most amazing stat here once again, is how they report a 2.7% increase in real median income and 2.3% of it comes from people getting unemployment checks and social security checks. It's a house of cards folks. We'll be back. We have just scratched the surface as we always have at this time. 800-282- 2882. Stay with us, we'll be right back. Advertisements Rush L. - We will be talking to Republican Presidential candidate Bob Dole sometime during the program today. We are going to roll with the time schedules and try to squeeze him in when he has some time and we have some time and it certainly should happen sometime before 3 o'clock because that's when the show is over and if it doesn't happen before 3, it can't happen at least on this show. In order to guarantee that it does happen on this show. 800-282-2882. I've got to play you a little clip here from the little general, Ross Perot. He was in Buffalo yesterday and he had a short little comment here on John Wong, lipro-suction and all of these campaign contributions scandals. Ross Perot - Recording Rush L. - There you have it ladies and gentlemen, the little general, weighing in on lipro-suction in his own inimitable style. Keep in mind, keep in mind that it is illegal for foreigners to contribute to presidential campaigns and I'm sure that's what the little general, Ross Perot was referring to. Here's news out of Atlanta - this is polling data. And by the way we're keeping a sharp eye on the latest Zogby Blast Poll - yesterday they were at 7.7 percent, the difference between Clinton and Dole. Perot was up around 8.6 percent. Yesterday CNN, USA Today had Perot up at 11; Clinton at 49 and I think Dole at 37 if I remember this right. We're awaiting the Zogby Blast any time between now and 1 o'clock. I understand we're first on Zogby's fax list of course, after Reuters, because Reuters is gonna get it before we will. We're second on the Zogby's Blast fax list. When we get it we will let you know. President Clinton's once comfortable lead over Dole has all but disappeared in Georgia, which is one of the four southern states that Clinton carried in 1992. This is the Mason/Dixon - sorry this is not the Mason/Dixon poll because the Mason/Dixon poll is reporting similar things. This survey was conducted October 26 through 30th by Marketing Workshop, Inc. for the Atlanta Journal Constitution and WFB-TV, which is an ABC affiliate in Atlanta. Clinton who lead Dole by 15 points a month ago, had only a 3 point lead on Dole in the latest survey. The survey has a 3 percent margin of error and the results show the two contenders therefore to be in a statistical dead heat. The poll put Clinton support at 43; Dole at 40 and Ross Perot at 8. The number of undecided voters was 10 percent. Also the results in this poll show that Dole appears to be benefitting from a narrowing arousal gap with women increasingly being drawn into the Republican camp. The erosion of Clinton's lead was almost entirely among white voters. Only one in 3 of whom said they planned to vote for Clinton. Black voters remained overwhelmingly loyal to him. And I have a little fax story here. Calypso Louie - have you heard about this one Mr. Snerdley - Calypso Louis was in Macon, Georgia. In an arousing speech last Saturday night the news out of a Calypso Louie press conference is slow in coming. We're just now hearing about it. It was Saturday night, Calypso Louie challenged Blacks to make their political leaders more accountable and to give up their blind loyalty to the Democratic Party. Said Calypso Louie - the slave master gives you a few crumbs and now you're joyous. He was shouted at and approvingly throughout his 2-hour speech, got many standing O's, and the most common shout that was heard was teach, teach on that, teach on that Calypso Louie. Calypso Louie didn't say you look foolish in 96 to be loyal to anything that is not loyal to you. Now see this thing about Calypso Louie - half the stuff he says makes sense when he talks about self-reliance and he talks about not depending on anybody else - half of it makes sense - he ropes people in with that and then starts into this hate mongering that he is so famous for and that is what makes it so repugnant. But he is right about this, he is right about it and it was I, it was I who suggested earlier this week that perhaps it might be wise in the future if we started saying things like - Al Gore is attempting to reinstitute slavery. Or Bill Clinton and Al Gore are trying to maintain slavery in the United States - and have people go - What, what do you mean. Now all I have to do is quote Calypso Louie - when he says the slave master gives you a few crumbs and now you're joyous - who is he talking about. He's talking about Democrats, that's what the speech is all about. So Calypso Louie has now referring to the Democrats, that's what the speech is all about Democrats. That's what the speech was all about. So Calypso Louie has now referred to the Democrats as slave masters. I shudder to think that he's taking my advice but I'll tell you I have given a lot of good advice on this program in the past six months and I have been amazed at the number of my enemies who have taken it - Clinton, bits of advice and now perhaps Calypso Louie - only time will tell. Remember the name Mark Middleton, ladies and gentlemen. Mark Middleton was this man who was sent over to Taiwan to in essence, shake down some business and political people for contributions to the Clinton/Gore reelection effort. Well there is additional news about Mark Middleton. The White House said - who, no he hadn't been around here, no Mark Middleton, no we don't - - -. They're lying again about what they know of Mark Middleton. Commercial (Political) Rush L. - Welcome back Rush Limbaugh the excellence in broadcasting network open line Friday. Mark Middleton, we told you about him earlier - shakedown artist for the Clinton administration in DNC over in Taiwan trying to shade down $15 million in contributions from Taiwanese political and business leaders. The buy had business cards even. Mark Middleton has business cards. He handed them out. The embossed cards were said to describe him as "Special Assistant to the President." Although he was not - he was not a special assistant to president but the card said he was. His card listed a White House number and if you called that number - if you called the number of Mark Middleton's business cards you'd get the office of Mack McClardy who is the former Chief of Staff. Can't keep up with these people. Now he is just in charge of bimbo eruptions and cover ups. So if you dial the number that is on this guy Middleton's business card, the message you get is - thank you for calling the White House - to reach Mac McClardy, please dial this number - - - -. To teach Mark Middleton, please dial this number - - - -. That's what it said yesterday. If you call today - Mark Middleton's name and number are no longer on the voice mail. But up until yesterday you could call the number on Middleton's business card where it said special assistant to the president even though he wasn't. You got a phone number that sent you to a voice mail box - Mack McClardy or Mark Middleton, now Middleton's name has been taken off. Can you believe this - folks it gets deeper and deeper every day. Now there is more though. Listen to this. Attorney General Janet Reno has asked the Justice Department's Criminal Division to review the allegations that surround John Wong. The Criminal Division is head up by a guy named John C. Keeney. He is the father of a man named John C. Keeney Jr. Do you know who John C. Keeney Jr. is? He is Wong's attorney. So, let me explain this to you again. You have John Wong who is obviously in trouble. He has done some things - there is a huge cloud of suspicion hanging over John Wong. We've detailed it for you. So Janet Reno says to Justice Dept. Criminal Division, investigate Wong; we've got to look into these allegations. The Criminal Division is headed by John Keeney, the father of Wong's attorney - John Keeney Jr. So how far is this one going to go? Let's review some of the things we have learned - some of the things that we have previously told you about. Contrary to the White House line - a lot of this is put together by the Investor's Business Daily, a great summary today. Contrary to the White House line, the President often conferred with John Wong, even though they said he didn't - a couple times maybe ......... Many times; 65 times in nine months he was in the White House. Once talked with Clinton - late night - for two hours. The Secret Service logs show that Wong visited the White House at least 65 times this year, 78 times in the last 15 months. He often stayed for hours and late into the night - a time Clinton likes to do business. Testifying in court, after federal marshals re-sent to track him down, John Wong said he met quite a few times with the President and First Lady even before he joined the Commerce Department in 1994. Logs of John Wong's commerce phone messages show 40 calls from the White House. One was from Harold Ickys. More messages were from Nancy Henrick, a secretary to Clinton. Two calls came from Mark Middleton, a top aide to White House advisor Mack McClardy, who was over shaking down the Taiwanese. Before his commerce post Wong was top U.S. executive for the Riate family, the Indonesians with the long ties to Clinton and the Little Rock elite. The White House denied that Wong influenced Indonesian policy but documents show that he sat in on at least two interdepartmental meetings to re- examine U.S./Indonesia policy on trade and human rights - which we've told you before, he had access to State Dept. and CIA files. Both meetings took place months before Wong formally recused himself from Indonesian affairs. He did that in November '94 when Republicans who were sure to keep a close eye on Clinton, won control of Congress. The Administration claims that after leaving Commerce on Dec. 3rd, '95, Wong went straight to work for the DNC. Yet on Dec. 19th, he gave $1,000 to the Democrats and listed his employer as the Lipo Bank/Lipo Group which is the Riate's firm. (Gap) work staff but he was over there and the paper work just took a while to catch up with his movements. Now there are some other points which - none of these contradict what the White House is saying but they do paint a pretty nasty picture - to wit - Mark Middleton is from Arkansas as well. In addition to shaking down the Taiwanese, having a business card listing a phone number at the White House, which got you a voice mailbox for Mark Middleton until yesterday when they changed it, he has been placed by two separate sources at a February 1995 meeting where Taiwanese politicians offered to send $15 million to the DNC, not long before Clinton policy took a more pro-Taiwan tilt. When John Wong went to the Commerce Dept., it was headed by Ron Brown, who was under his own special counsel investigation. Vice President Al Gore - he's starting to look bad too - he goes out to that Buddhist temple that he claims is an outreach program and instead they raised $140,000. It is not credible that Al Gore did not know a fund raiser when he saw it - I mean he's a politician - that the first thing they know - they come out of the womb knowing a fund raiser. The first fund raiser they see if their dad, their mom and they grow from there. The DNC may have conspired to break campaign finance laws. The federal election - and this folks, not enough has been made of this one, this is the one that you just have to write the big question mark, the red flag gets raised - the Democratic National Committee allowed donors, allowed 20 separate donors to list DNC headquarters as their home address. This is from the Federal Election Commission and the FEC requires parties to track down the addresses of major donors, but the DNC let 20 big givers list party headquarters as their home address. That means you can't find them - that means you can't track them down. That means you don't know who they are. And admist all of this Bill Clinton is out there saying that it's all Bob Dole's fault because he stood in the way of campaign finance reform. This is thick - this is the kind of stuff that has a life span - it is these sorts of things that the little general, Ross Perot is talking about that will have a life beyond the election. One way or the other, regardless of the outcome, these things are going to have a life. Bill Clinton could loose this election and move off to some rocking chair somewhere and this investigation will go on because this also involves the DNC. This involves perhaps the President - remember this is what Watergate was all about. Don't forget Watergate was in many ways about the illegal connections between the White House and the Republican National Committee - with the White House trying to bug the Democratic National Committee headquarters and so forth - none of that's Kosher, none of that's legal, and it appears that Clinton has from the early days - well none of what they did in Watergate was legal - the way they did it, there has to be some contact but you cannot do what Clinton has apparently done and that is turn the DNC into your own personal fund raising arm. And direct it and so forth and mix foreign economic policy with Democratic National Committee policy and so forth. So it will have a life of its own. Quick break. We'll be back to get some phone calls after this one so stay with us. Commercial Rush L. - Open Line Friday, Rush Limbaugh on the phones, Redondo Beach, California - Hello John. Glad you called sir, you're up. Caller - Thanks Rush, Rush tie, Limbaugh letter and stogie dittoes to you. Rush L. - Thank you much for the call. Caller - I am the honorary first contestant in the pick your pardon pool, and next Friday at 10:30 be ready. That's when the first one will come out and I'm going to stand by it. Rush L. - And who will be pardoned? Caller - Susan Rush L. - Susan McDougal. Next Friday, a week from today at 10:30 in the morning. Caller - 10:30 Eastern Time - in the evening. Rush L. - 10:30 Eastern Time Friday night. Oh, I see, long after the weak, small Saturday papers have been put to bed. Caller - You got it Rush. Okay, my point is regarding Prop 209 out here in California. Rush L. - Yes, the California civil rights initiative or the initiative that would end all discrimination. Caller - Yeah, I'm a little worried about it - I see that some of the numbers have fallen - it's not as overwhelmingly supported as it was and a particular quote by President Clinton caught my eye. He praised certain military programs as the right type of affirmative action and he said that through such programs someone made an extra effort to give minorities the chance to prove that they were qualified. I admire that. My point is I don't care if the applicant is a green, left-handed, dyslexic, , disciple from Pluto, he or she should be given the same chance, not an extra chance to prove him or her - Rush L. - Wait a second here. Would somebody define for me the affirmative action program that exists in the U.S. military. You see my friend, there isn't one. There is no affirmative action in the military - that's entirely merit based. This is what Der slickmeister. Der slickmeister takes an existing private sector program that's working well, a merit based system and claims that it's affirmative action, a government program that's making it work well and says that's what we ought to be doing around the rest of the country, ha, ha. Well if we do that then you would vote no or vote yes actually on 209. You get rid of discrimination and that's what they did in the military. This is a crock, this is an absolute crock. How about this - the President was in Phoenix, Arizona - to bad he didn't go by and visit Joe Arpios' tent city out there. The President was campaigning in Arizona. Now Arizona has not voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate since Harry Truman. Bill Clinton in his remarks urged America to reject "racial, ethnic, tribal and religious differences." Tribal? We've had a new word added to the mantra. Obviously this is an appeal to the Native American - the injun population out there - tribal divisions. You know, I'll tell you something - it is this president and his party which has done more to divide people into groups in this country than anybody else. It is this president who looks at somebody as - you must be an injun, are you related to Custer, ha, ha. They're the ones who see peoples' skin color or hair style or whatever and judge immediately what group they're a member of. And then they form their opinion of this person based on their skin color before getting to know them character-wise or anything else. These are the ones who do it and now to add tribal to this. The President also it's been said privately is expressing mounting irritation with Bob Dole. Clinton is upset at some of the things Dole is saying on the campaign trail which apparently explains why Clinton is starting to criticize Dole in a more pointed way, Well obviously what this means is that the truth is starting to get to Bill Clinton and had we just been saying the truth about him a lot longer, we would have irritated him a lot sooner and taken him off his game a lot sooner. Thanks Jack for the phone call - John - I appreciate it, will keep an eye on it. Next Friday night, at 10:30 is the pardon pool projection hereis, that Susan McDougal will be pardoned by Bill Clinton, Friday at 10:30. Win or loose, especially loose. That's when all the mouth pieces are up in the Hamptons or in Martha's Vineyard you know, Al Hunt and Judy will be gone; Bernard Shaw will be gone; Peter; Dan; Tom will be gone. The newspapers will be put to bed, so the coverage will be small and limited. Jack, in Clearwater, Florida, hello, welcome to the EIB network. Jack - Rush, Dittoes from Clearwater Beach. Rush L. - Thank you sir. Nice to hear from you. Jack - I just want to validate something Mr. Snerderly was talking about earlier - the senior citizens. Rush L. - Well let me just repeat this for those just joining the program. Mr. Snerderly arrived today and swore, claimed that the trick or treaters at his home last night included a senior citizen who was not a chaperon or a baby sitter but in fact a competitor of the little 10 year olds. There was a knock on his door, he opened it - some ten year olds and this senior citizen, gray haired person that shoved - was it a her? - it was a female - shoved her bag in front of Mr. Snerderly higher, and first than any of these other little kids could get their bags to him. And I said come on, this woman is a chaperon. She's a baby sitter; she's out there, her little 2 year old is behind her and you didn't see her. No, no, no. No, no, no this woman was out for herself - that's what he said. There are those of us here who doubt this. Mr. Snerderly claims it is a result of the Medicare mentality which has erupted in the past two years. Now, you say that you can validate that story? Jack - Well, not exactly, but something similar occurred. I was out in Las Vegas on business this week and a group of us went into a .... Rush L. - Wait a minute - Las Vegas on business - a likely story. Your wife must be tuning in. Jack - Yes, as a matter of fact she probably is. At any rate a group of seasoned citizens came in, proceeded to help themselves to the happy hour goodies which was fine but after they finished, they took out zipper lock bags.... Rush L - Wait a minute where is this - at a bar in Las Vegas? Jack - Yes, at a sports bar in Las Vegas. They took out zipper lock bags and proceeded to take everything that wasn't nailed down. Rush L - On, like what? Jack - Food, napkins, matches Rush L - What kind of food is laying around - you mean the peanuts and popcorn ... Jack - Well they took that too, well like chicken legs and celery and carrots and things they had out for happy hour. Rush L - You mean like a buffet style.... Jack - Correct, and they actually brought in zip lock bags - and everybody was incredulous and after they left the bartender said it's common. He said in fact they send out scouts to various places to see who has the best happy hours and then send out a group later on to just come in and carry out whatever.... Rush L - This is just seasoned citizens or a lot of people? Jack - There were about 5 or 6 seasoned citizens that came in. It was obviously their intent. They weren't shy about it. I mean they walked up to the bar with zip lock bags, seriously pouring bar snacks, napkins, and matches and carrying them out. Rush L - All right Jack, thanks for that eye witness testimony, but I have got to tell you I've seen this happen you know, with people that are not senior citizens. You see this happen - salad bars - I've seen people just stand there and graze. They don't even bother putting it in a zip lock bag and leaving. Anyway, well look Jack, thanks for the call. Appreciate it, must be worse than we thought out there. Commercial Rush L - If moments ago, you heard a protracted length of silence, there is something wrong with your radio. Call your repairman - 800-282-2882. This is Marcello in Minneapolis. Welcome to the show. Marcello - Mega dittoes Rush. Rush L - Thank you sir, nice to hear from you sir. Marcello - I'm Honduran bound for the winter time. Could you tell me what are the best cigars to get down there? Rush L - Well I can tell you what some of the finest made Honduran cigars are, whether they are on sale down there or not, I don't know because I have never..... Turn your radio down there Marcello. Let me give you some brand names again - I don't know if they're sold down there. I know that they're made there and they are imported in the United States - Punch, any cigar with the Punch brand name is made down there; the Grand Cruise series is good, Hoya De Monta Rey comes from Honduras. And in fact you might like to know Marcello that Bill Clinton smokes Hoya De Monta Rey Excaliburs - that might influence your purchase decision. And there is a relatively new cigar coming out of there and I have gotten into a lot of trouble for mentioning this cigar because it caused a run on them and they're very popular - but I am going to do it again - Padrone. Padrone cigar from Honduras is pretty good. I'm sure there are more and I love cigars but my friends, I can possible smoke every cigar there is in order to review it and recommend it. Those are the three I know - those are the three I'll tell you about. We'll take a break here and be back with more on Open Line Friday after this moment of silence. Commercial Rush L. - Open Live Friday - And what that means is if your call is interesting enough we'll take it. 800-282-2882. I told you that we were waiting on the Zogby Poll. We've got the Zogby Blast Facts. We're number 2 on the Zogby list - Reuters gets it first and the Zogby poll is reporting today that Bill Clinton's lead is at 5-1/2 points. The numbers are these Bob Dole has 36-1/2 percent, Der Slickmeister has 42 percent, Ross Perot is at 8.4 percent and 11.2 percent are undecided. The other candidates, such as the Liberterians, the Greens and the Taxpayers Party get a total of 1.9 percent in the Zogby poll. Once again the Zogby Reuters Tracking poll is a 1200 voter survey. They roll it every 3 days. There is 400 voters a day and they create a 3 day average. It is a rolling average so every day that they announce the poll is it the average of the previous 3 days. Today's results involve therefore the average of Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points. Now Zogby, the pollster himself, says this, "something is clearly happening out there." Last night the dam broke as most of the undecideds went to Dole. In just last night's polling alone Clinton lead Dole by only 3-1/2 percent - 43.3 to 39.8. And the undecideds were just 6.4 percent, down from 15.3 percent two days ago. Clinton's numbers have steadily declined which caused an increase in undecideds. The majority of those have now gone with Dole. Dole is widening his lead among Protestants; among those who have lost a job in the past year and among those who live in households earning $75,000 a year or more. He is closer in the Central and Great Lakes area than he has been before as well. The Zogby Poll also looks at the Congressional outcome. The race for Congress remains extremely close according to the Zogby Poll - Democrats hold a slight edge 39.3 to 37.8 over the Republicans as the choice in voters own districts. Meanwhile the Republicans have widened their lead over Democrats as the preferred majority in both the Senate - 44.5 to 38.5, and in the House 44 to 39. So it is looking good in Congress according to again the Zogby Poll. And I just do want to make mention at 5-1/2 points in the Zogby Poll. I have a story here out of Ocala, Florida that involves seasoned citizens and Medicare - and I want to run some of the details of this story by you because it is amazing in its own little way. Here is how the story reads. As retirees watched warily as Medicare became an issue in this year's presidential election - now they are anxious, angry and even cynical about politicians willingness to deal with a growing national problem. Take a brief time out here once again for you seasoned citizens because this is what is really frustrating. There is a group of people who did tackle this. They didn't wait for the safety of a blue ribbon bi-partisan commission. The Republicans in the t Congress tackled it - they went after it head on because the administration said - hey, Medicare is going bankrupt. The trust fund is going bankrupt by the year 2002. We're going to fix it, they tried. They were lied about, the whole issue was demagogued and you senior citizens who now think you're hanging by a thread - you think that because of the scare tactics employed by the Democrats. It's a hot potato. They don't want to touch it said retiree Frances Taffel, who moved to Del Ray Beach, Florida from Fairfield, CT. Meanwhile our lives, she says, are hanging by a political thread. What do you mean Frances, they don't want to touch it. A whole political party tried to touch and tried to fix it and they were killed for it. They were trying to save it. This is what is so frustrating about this from the get go. Lavern Westerlyn, a retired sexretary from Baltimore now lives in Tampa, said, if the politicians would just be real honest, we could fix it - one side says they're cutting back, the other side says they're not touching it, now I see that President Clinton wants a bi- partisan commission to look at it, Dole also wants a bi-partisan commission. They're fine but I don't agree with bi-partisan commissions. We don't elect bi-partisan commissions, that's not how the country was set up, our elected officials are supposed to do this and do it with guts and courage. I'll tell you who is going to be real sour. You know how everybody talks about - I have a sour taste in my mouth about this - and people are going to end up paying for all this if it doesn't get fixed fast and that is generally the young and the Generation X's. It defies my understanding how anybody can say - nobody is trying to fix this, nobody is trying..... - they're just playing politics with my Medicare. Now they were trying to fix it, they really were. That is really what's so frustrating. TV networks yesterday rejected a request from western states - that they not declare a winner in the presidential election until polls close in the Pacific and Mountain Time zones. The three networks CNN, ABC, CBS and oh yeah, the fourth NBC - I left one out - said they have no plans to change the way they traditionally call the presidential race on election night. We call them one at a time and when there is a clear winner we call it, said Heidi Pacorney, who is he spokesman for NBC news. Rhue Narlage who is the president of ABC News said that ABC would not predict the outcome of the election in any state ahead of time. He said ABC would wait until a substantial number of polling places in the state had closed before calling the state. On the other hand at a certain point the president will have been elected and it is foolish and naive to think that we can keep that a secret from the American people. That is his states. They are going to call it state by state and he is saying hey, we may not know California by 8 o'clock on Tuesday night, but we'll know probably who has won the presidency and if we do we're going to tell you. California be dammed. That's my statement not Rhue Narlage's. Don't any of you call and say that Rhue Narlage said any of that. Let's see what else do we have here. No, I don't want to get into that yet although I will later on. Oh, and of interest there is fascinating development here with the abortion pill story. You people, wait until you hear this thing is being brought to market or how they're going to try to bring this thing to market. I'll get into that in just a second. I'll take a break now. I want to get back to your phone calls on Open Line Friday - 800-282-2882. Stay with us. Commercials Rush L - Hey, one other thing here folks before we go back to the phone calls - this is a story by the way that surfaced yesterday and I want to tell you the source of the story. The source of the story is Christopher Ruddy. Chris Ruddy used to work at the New York Post. He got into some trouble because he was pursuing the Vince Foster death with such vigor. So he is now working from the annals of western Pennsylvania at the Greensburg Tribune Review which is near Pittsburgh, Chris Ruddy ran a story the other day that everybody has pick up on now, and the story has been confirmed which validates Ruddy. You know Ruddy has been maligned because of his pursuit of the Vince Foster story. And he has hung in there. Here is the story - President Clinton's top fund raiser has long tried to tap big Asian linked campaign contributors. A guy named Terry McCullough, supervised John Wong the banker, and Democratic fund raiser at the center of - this is not the story that I had but I don't need it in front of me. This is an entirely different thing. These campaign stories - this is about the Russian mob. Clinton is meeting with the leader of the Russian mob and they've admitted it. And everybody is wondering - why is the leader of the Russian Mafia talking with Clinton, what could possibly be going on here - and wanted a picture. Who knows. But the bottom line is that the shady characters that this administration continues to surround themselves with piles up. Now get this - this is hilarious. Guess how the White House is explaining the 65 visits to the White House by John Wong. They're saying - wait a minute - there is another John Wong. There were two people named John Wong visiting the White House. One of them was working with Vice President Al Gore's Review of Government Agencies. So one of these John Wongs was in the White House working for Gore's re-invention of Government, the other John Wong was meeting with Clinton. That's why there appeared to be so many visits by John Wong to the White House, there are two John Wongs. That's right, two wongs don't make a right here folks, that's what you have to look at this as. Can you imagine this, there are two John Wongs. And as Ross Perot said, wouldn't it be nice to see an O'Reilly on that list somewhere. Paulette, Florida, we start with you Dot, welcome to the EIB Network. Dot - Hi, Rush, I love you. I'm being facetious and maybe a little bit cynical today but every since you started talking about the lipo connection, I have been thinking why not just let old Farrakhan raise his money from Kadofy. You know if we're going to do stuff like this. This administration is just so rotten to the core. I just go ballistic every time I think of them. Rush L - Okay, I agree with you. In other words what you're saying is if we're not going to stop Clinton from taking money from Lipo and all that, why are we getting mad at Farrakhan for taking money from Kadofy. Dot - Really, I have no use for Farrahkan but you know the most insufferable thing about a liberal is that besides the fact that they'll never admit that they are is their damnable double standard. Rush L - Oh, yes, Oh yes and you know how that damnable double standard manifests itself. Damnable double standard manifests itself by them coming up with two rules. One set by which you live and the other set by which they live. Dot - Oh yes, well..... Rush L - And all the rules they define for you and I to live under they exempt themselves from. Dot - Absolutely ... Rush L. - So where it is not OK for Calypso Louie to collect money from the likes of Momar Kadofy, Bill Clinton can go out and collect money from foreigners..... Dot - Well I'm not under any illusions about Mr. Dole's perfection, but he is a decent man with a proven record of service whereas the other guy has a record of nothing but subterfuge, lies, etc, etc. Rush L - Well, what do you want, what do you want as your president folks, a great campaigner or a good man. Bob Dole is not the best campaigner obviously but there are many who think that he would make a great president. And do you know why - because of the signature there - Bob Dole on so many pieces of legislation that would be coming out of Republican Congress. Charley, cellular call St. Louis, you're on the EIB Network Open Line Friday, Hello. Charley - Yeah, Rush, can you hear me? Rush L - Yeah, can you hear me? Charley - I can hear you, in fact the whole country can hear you. Hey listen, I just heard you talking about the networks and announcing the election. Rush L - I heard that too. Charley - You know when I was in advertising there was something called Network Feeds. The Networks could just like do the news in New England, let's say, without the rest of the country having to hear the election result and as the time zones come into play or as the polls close you extend your feed so you bring in the rest of the country. Rush L - They can't do it anymore because there are so many home dishes. I mean if they're going to feed everything by satellite now, that's when they used to feed by phone line. They feed everything by bird now, and if you're going to feed New England by bird somebody in Missouri, like you is going to have a dish that can bring it down, and you're going to say hey, they just called the presidency for Dole in New England but they're going to wait until our polls close for an hour. You're going to have a heads-up and you're going to call the people at KMOX so that they can break it the story and that'll be that. There's no way of keeping it secret - they're right about that. Once it gets out - look, you think that exit pollsters are going to be quiet. I mean the people who are going to be deterred as one group that does exit polls. The networks all hire the same outfit - don't know the name of it but you'll hear about it and the exit pollsters themselves have the information they give to the networks. I mean there won't be a way to keep a lid on this and I Charley - But it's unfortunate, there's just not .... I kinda consider it a honor system, and you know the honors in that area of the world. Rush L - Well that's true but how else would you do it. Tell me what you would do. Keeping in mind that your idea of regional feeds won't work, what would you do? (GAP) Rush L - And Back to the phones now. Rush Limbaugh back to Lake Charles, LA. This is Jody and you're up. Jody - Hi, Rush. It's an honor. Rush L - Thank you very much. Jody - I wanted to let you all know that I had called Bo during the week and he told me to call back today. When he came down here last week ... Rush L - Who? Jody - Clinton. Yes, we were blessed with his presence last week. He always likes to have your average, everyday citizen introduce him. Well he showed up at Grauman and a woman employee from Grauman introduced him and she talked about how she had to go back to school for two years to move up further into her job and everything and had it not been for the welfare programs and everything she would not have got to make it through school so easily. She got to go through school without having to go through the burden of work. And I was extremely offended. I'm a 35 year old working mom and ... Rush L - You paid for her education. Jody - I'm also paying for my education. I'm also at a university here in Lake Charles and I just found it extremely offensive. I go to work part time and I go to school part time. I'm paying for this, I write my tuition checks out, I'm having a hard enough time putting myself through school.... Rush L - And here is this woman thanking Bill Clinton for it. Jody - Right, right and I'm the one paying her tuition. I'm writing my check and hers and I found it really, really offensive. Rush L - Yeah, and people will see this. This is what scares people. I mean here is a guy shamelessly out there having somebody walk up on stage, introduce him and give him credit for whatever has happened to her and he has had no more to do with her life than he has had anything to do with mine. And how he gets anybody to do it, you know the honor of introducing Bill Clinton, maybe a little meeting afterwards, who knows. I mean it's just sick, absolutely sick. Thanks Jody for the phone call. This Devin, Colorado Springs, welcome to the program. Devin - Mega dittoes from a politician's kid. Rush L - Thank you for the call. Who is your dad? Devin - He is from the State of Iowa. He is a retiree. His name is Horace Dagett. Rush L - Welcome to the program. Devin - The answer to all of this, absolutely all of this is be a committed constituent. Committed to your duties. Rush L - Wait a minute - the answer to all of what? Devin - The closing of the polls, the ballots, the budget battle, encouraging Mr. Newt, calling Mr. Kemp to accountability for that comment, making sure people are honest. If I'm a committed constituent if I'm doing my job then they will do their jobs - they will be honest. They will be encouraged - I will be their energy. Rush L - Wait a minute Dev. How can a committed constituent have anything to do with what the networks do regarding reporting the results from the polls. Devin - I'm not really concerned about the networks reporting. What I'm concerned about is if I'm a constituent, I'd go vote. Because if I go vote, it doesn't matter what they report. Rush L - It says - Are you from Colorado Springs? Devin - I am now. Rush L - OK, all right, just checking to make sure because what it says here you wanted to talk about, it doesn't .... Devin - I told Mr. Snerdley that if I'm a committed constituent, committed to my duty, if I follow through on my duty and I go vote and I encourage my candidate in all of these things, all the different issues that everyone is so concerned about on this election will automatically be answered because I am doing my job as a constituent. Rush L - Well, OK, that of course is undisputable. I wouldn't disagree with that but it says up here - and the reason why I am somewhat confused I must tell you is - it says you were going to call and your subject had to do with the early closing of California polls. Devin - Yes. Rush L - And you haven't talked about that. Devin - I told him that it wouldn't matter when those polls closed. If I am committed to doing my duty, it doesn't matter when they close. Rush L - But it does, because you can be committed to doing your duty as anybody has been but it won't have any affect on what the networks do. Devin - No, but it will have a definite outcome. And you know the outcome is to win in spite of any and every obstacle. Rush L - That's right. OK, thanks Devin very much. Carol in Athens, Georgia. Welcome to the program. Carol - Good morning - Hello. Rush L - How are you? Carol - Fine, thank you. Scared. Rush L - Are you scared? Carol - Yeah. I'm so frustrated because I want the facts to be told about this new entitlement for education. I'm frustrated with this proposal to give every college freshman and sophomore a $1500.00 tuition credit. Rush L - Yes, in fact this is Clinton's brilliant new scheme to see to it that education now is not K through 12, but is K through 12, plus 2. Carol - And I'm not going to get my monies worth as a taxpayer because 50 percent of all the high school students go to college and only 20 percent graduate. And, on top of that, that $1500.00 tax tuition is only 20 percent of what it costs to educate each student. Rush L - Carol, this is another great example of something that is never going to happen. This is nothing more than campaign rhetoric, designed to make people think that Bill Clinton cares about educating your kids and everybody else's, which he bounces off Bob Dole's supposed claim to want to end education by cutting the education department. It is never going to happen, this is not going to get out of Congress, there isn't the money for this - $1500.00 isn't going to matter a hill of beans. There may be a lot of people talk about it so as to make people think they are for it. A lot of people - do you the way this stuff works psychologically, I will bet you that there are people in this country who are going to vote who already think it has happened. Because Clinton talked about it, they think it's already reality. And on that basis when it doesn't happen, they won't know because they think it already has. This is all psychological. This all comes under the umbrella of how can we fool them today. And because of the specifics which you have laid out it won't happen. It's not cost effective, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't defray enough costs anyway but there aren't going to be the votes in Congress for this no matter who ends up running it. Because you're not going to get 60 Senators to go along with this. And that's what you need now, it just isn't going to happen. We got a break here folks, we'll be back with more after this. Commercial Rush L - And back we are, Rush Limbaugh on the EIB Network, and apparently Senator Dole has not been able to find the time on the campaign trail to give us a call. We gave him the 2 to 3 o'clock window. They called earlier today and asked if we would have some time for the Senator today and we said sure between 2 and 3 o'clock hour and I guess they have just not been able to find the time themselves. It's understandable, the campaign trail being what it is. So, a lot of things happen spontaneously there. Perot - the guy's name is Perot. Jersey City, New Jersey - Scott, hello, welcome to the program. Scott - Hi Rush, mega dittos to you and you do a great job for the country. Rush L - You don't sound like Perot. Scott - I know, I don't have the little - Well actually I want to tell you have terrific impersonations of both the little general and der slickmeister. Rush L - Well, sometimes I do - it depends on the day. Scott - Yeah, I , I really enjoy them. Rush L - Thank you. Scott - Well I have a statement to make about the little general and that was basically this - seeing that he did such a great job at the National Press Club, pointing out the weaknesses of der slickmeister and seeing that he really doesn't have a chance to win Rush, I don't understand why in good conscience, he doesn't just basically back down . Rush L - Well I can give you a speculative reason. I think Perot is serious about wanting to start a third party. And at some point he is going to have to admit that the third party is going to have to go on without him, because there is going to be a day when he looses interest or is not around or what have you. He's serious. If he pulls out now, the Reform Party is forever a joke. He can't do that, in fact, he needed to get 25 percent of the vote in this election to enable them to continue to qualify for certain funding levels. He's going to have trouble even doing that. As I said this is speculation but he's not going to back out now, he would have done it long ago. Scott - I certainly see your point, but the fact of the matter is just on general principle, pointing out the , that he has about Clinton, don't you think he should just pull out on general principle. Never minding the fact that I think Rush L - Wait a second now, wait a second, see I don't think quitting is a principled thing to do. I know what you're talking about. I'm not sure that his votes are going to come from Dole. Whatever votes he gets. I'm not at all convinced that that's the case here. He can't pull out twice anyway on principle or any other reason. His reputation is forever soiled if he does that. Steven in Woodruff, Arizona, you're next on the EIB network. Hello. Steven - Hello, hi Rush. Rush L - How are you sir? Steven - I'm pretty good, how about you. Rush - Couldn't be better. Steven - Good deal. Ok, I'm just calling to tell you something real quick here. My parents and I just got into an accident in the car. The car is totalled. It rolled over two or three times - we're all fine. My dad, a little while back, bought a license plate that says Rush Limbaugh - when the big fellow speaks, you really ought to listen.. Rush L - It says all of that on a license plate? Steven - Yeah. It's a pretty neat license plate. Well the car is totalled but the license plate is fine. It is perfectly fine - it's pretty neat, and plus the window that we have a Dole camp sticker on our back window, all the windows are gone except for that one. Rush L - So what do you think this means? Steven - Vote for Dole and good job Rush. Rush L - Well thank you very much sir. Steven - No problem. Rush L - Well that's an incredible amount to get on license plate. Let's see do we have time - I don't think we have time for another call ladies and gentlemen, so let me - well we do but it wouldn't be fair to the people that we have on hold. So let me just quickly remind you again that you know we're here until the last weekend - you're going to be running into a lot of people, wavering people, independents and Democrats who - they're going to vote for Clinton but they don't really like it. Just ask them this one question. Do you want your vote to be defined to the president as an acquittal of any criminal activity of his or any of his associates. Because any majority at all he is going to say constitutes an acquittal of the American people - they don't care about these things, it doesn't matter to them, he's going to pardon people and put this terrible period behind us. Ask people if they want their vote to mean that as you canvas you precinct. We'll see you Monday. RUSLIMB